The Greens's leader says she claimed social welfare benefits she was entitled to and Josie on the Huddle with Rachel Smalley on Newstalk ZB asks, when people have to decide whether to tell a lie or feed the kids or pay the rent, what would you have people in her situation do? The real issue is poverty in New Zealand.

And New Zealand First pledges to get rid of the Maori seats.

Listen to Part 1 here:
The Huddle 18 July 17 Part 1

and Part 2 is here:
The Huddle 18 July 17 Part 2



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